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of activity. these individuals reached out to us as they normally do. this was a routine engagement with the press as we normally do when these things are made public. >> the next paragraph says according to five people familiar with the call, brennan stressed that the plot was never a threat to the u.s. public or air safety because washington had inside control over it. >> inside control of the plot, yeb, that's exactly right. >> so based on that one would know that we had something inside. is that a fair statement. >> from that statement, it is known that that ied at the time was not a threat to the traveling public because we had said publicly there was no active plot at the time of the bin laden anniversary. >> would you agree with me that that disclosure resulted in the outing of an asset that shouldn't have been outed? >> absolutely not, senator. i do not agree with you whatsoever. >> how do you say that? >> what i'm saying is we were explaining to the american public why that ied was not, in fact, a threat at the time that it was in the control of individuals. when we say pos
of this whatsoever. >> having used the words that you used of inside control, it isn't much of a leap to determine that somehow you had a handle on it. >> it's not much of a leap to know that if, in fact, we said this ied was, in fact, obtained and it was not a threat at the time, that there was some type of inside control. it is almost a truism. >> having said that, it seems to me that the leak that the justice department is looking for is right here in front of us, and you disagree with that? >> i des agree with you vehemently senator, and i have talked to the department of justice. i conducted interviews with them and, you know, i am a witness in that as many other people are. and as you know, there are witness and subject and target. i'm not a subject, i'm not a target, i am a witness. because i want to make sure whoever leaked this information that got out to the press and that seriously did disrupt some very sensitive operational equities on the part of some of our international partners, that never should have happened. >> and you're in agreement with that, that this was a serious flaw in w
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